I bet the RAV4 Hybrid will indeed get 40 mpg at a steady 65 mph. "CarComplaints.com" ®, "Autobeef", "What's Wrong With YOUR Car?" Plus, there is RAV4 Hybrid that offers 40 mpg and 219 horsepower. Yes, they promise 40 mpg but it gets in the 20s, and you have to fill it up 2-3 times a day to do any sort of commute. In a statement to Automotive News, Toyota acknowledged the issue and confirmed that it is “investigating a fuel tank shape issue on certain RAV4 Hybrid vehicles. Have they looked into a talk to see if there are 4 gallons left when the light comes on? So here are my questions Like you, the range was the ONLY reason I bought the car, and Toyota is fraudulently failing to disclose defects effecting the mpg and the range. But fixing the tank would be a great reward for not having Android auto. Based on our ongoing investigation, replacing the fuel tank may mitigate these concerns, although it may not prevent the condition from reoccurring.”. We bought a 2019 RAV4 Hybrid LE model in July of last year and noticed immediately that the fuel system had/has issues. Also there are rattles and sounds that the car makes over 25mph that wouldn't happen if the car was put together solidly with better materials and workmanship, I can hear rattling from the backseat overhead portion, annoying to say the least. The class action lawsuit alleges Toyota advertises the 2019-2020 RAV4 Hybrids as having a 14.5 gallon tank that averages 41 city / 38 highway / 40 combined mpg. Owners are instructed to refuel the vehicle, but the lawsuit says this means a driver should be able to add about 12.3 gallons of fuel to the tank. Per last check in with Toyota, they hope to have resolution known “soon”. If you’re fine with the risk of having the tank take only 3-8 gallons, or if a range of only 100 miles or so and poor mpg doesn’t concern you, it could be good value for the money in your case. Addressing it would not be a major challenge.). Also there are rattles and sounds that the car makes over 25mph that wouldn't happen if the car was put together solidly with better materials and workmanship, I can hear rattling form the backseat overhead portion, annoying to say the least. Based on our ongoing investigation, Toyota believes these conditions to be primarily related to a variation in the fuel tank shape. There are a few things I'm not wild about, and that I feel could have been done better, but for the most part, except for this gas tank issue, I'm not going to complain. In snow, the sensors get packed with Ice & Snow and the car will randomly slam on the brakes with a false sense of impending crash when there is not anything in front of it. I suspect my new Rav4 hybrid has the problem. Geoff. Has anyone ignore the light and driven until the tank is dry? BMW i3 Range Extender Lawsuit Certified in California, owner-reported complaints about Toyota RAV4 Hybrids, read stories from drivers who praise our work. I then drove it 570 miles. Hopefully they keep the momentum going until the problem is fixed. 29K miles. This lets me know that they have no fix at all currently and don't plan on it, they are just trying to buy their time so the Lemon Law timeline and buyback timeline run out for the customer, and in the event someone tries to initiate one, they can claim that a "fix is in the works" bs. There is an interim fix, and this more than likely involves replacing the fuel tank itself. I surrender my intellect to you, my alleged superior. Did you even read the article? However, if the RAV4 Hybrid gas tank issue only allows 10- or 12-gallons capacity, this lessens the distance traveled until next fill time. Volume is 14.5 gallons, though many owners say they can’t get that much in there. I once did drive it 60 miles, using 4 gallons, after the light came on, and put in just short of 23 gallons. Proceed as you will, but I’ll strongly suggest you put it in for service multiple times for the express purpose of having them look at the poor mpg and fuel tank capacity, just to establish the defect and that they cannot fix it. Owners who complained to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration claimed the RAV4 Hybrid gas tank problems started as soon as they purchased or leased the vehicles. This reported issue is not one that involves safety or that should cause a panic by any means. Most times when we refill it like "an American" it will not take more than 9 gallons on a low tank, which also translates to about 9.9 gallons on an EMPTY tank with less than 40 est. I mean, if replacing the tank fixes it, what makes it start back up again? At the Balboa Bay Club, where 6 figure luxury cars are common, a steady stream of Rav4 Hybrids are showing up. Would love to get it fix. When it does that in the snow, it locks up the brakes in the ice and I slide all over the place including sideways and spinning in a circle out of control. Many fuel pumps are 1) inside the gas tank, and 2) cooled by the fuel. The complaints are organized into groups with data published by vehicle, vehicle component, and specific problem. Art, the Japanese have stretched the truth many times in the past. But from your experience (at 80 mph) I’m more than right at 90. For its part, the manufacturer is aware of the problem. Hybrids are not just about gas mileage. The issue is a badly designed fuel filler. All econo-boxes are merely about going from point A to B and back again. Sometimes I was only able to pump a gallon or two and had to go to another station to fill the rest. In the summer it rarely took more than 10. I really feel bad for the car - it has been very good to me and now it's going to go to buyback heaven without ever getting a proper road trip. Toyota quality, workmanship, and design has all decreased comparative to what it used to be.The overall build quality of the RAV4 and Rav4Hy are despicable. Need a better way to vent the air from the gas tank when filling. On the various Hybrids I own or have owned when doing trips with the cruise set at ~80mph they get about 10% less than they do in the everyday driving. Instead of offering a fix, Toyota has officially told me that my 3 gallon tank capacity is a “normal operating characteristic” which does not need fixing. This will be a tough fix for Toyota because they have to tear the car apart to remove and replace the tank. The lawsuit alleges Toyota knows about the 2019 RAV4 Hybrid gas tank problems because the automaker issued a "Tech Tip" to dealerships in November 2019. The plaintiff complains his RAV4 Hybrid doesn't get anywhere near the 550-mile range Toyota promised as his SUV averages only 435 miles. Those are exactly the two reasons why fuel gauges, specifically the “empty” mark, are calibrated so conservatively. Meanwhile, after the pump shuts off, one can still milk in another couple gallons if you're patient. I have had the (defective faulty) Rav4 Hybrid for almost a year, the DTE computer is also inaccurate due to the gas tank issue. Nada. Have a car complaint to add? In the name of science, take a couple jerry cans and run it ’til it dies. (I had a car which had something like a 10-gallon tank, and of that about 2 gallons were the ‘mystery/unusable reserve’. – and adjusted the light to come on with 8 gallons left instead. If only the ones tailgating me in the slow lane would run out of gas…. Tried and true! That’s it. Also side passenger mirror was loose after I bought it and had to get it tightened, but it still makes noise. Our vehicle was remotely delivered to us with only 40 miles to empty showing and the fuel gauge showing close to empty. I am hoping the widespread complaints and loss of sales will cost Toyota enough that they tighten up the quality/engineering before selling new models. At very next fill up still couldn’t break 10 gallons even past slightly empty light with negligible DTE. I have a '17 Rav4Hybrid Limited. Probably 25 mpg at 90 mph. So they already knew about it and started redesigning the tanks before now, but didn’t offer to fix anything until enough people complained. I used to own a Lexus LX 570, which of course got somewhere slightly above 0 mpg in city driving, so I was refilling often. Toyota’s Customer Experience Center at 1-800-331-4331 is also available to answer questions.”. Also side passenger mirror was loose after I bought it and had to get it tightened, but it still makes noise. It’s just daft. I’ve seen sort of the same thing on my 2008 Toyota. Yes, RAV4 is incredibly popular. Not exactly, certain RAV4 Hybrids means not all model years or all models. Going from something like 13gallons to over 16, allowing 650+ miles. Last week I made a comment here about how the front brakes on my ’17 Rav4 Hybrid Limited are squirrely as all hell. Representing Shareholders, Employees, and Consumers for Over 30 Years. The RAV4 Hybrid owner's manual says the low fuel warning light will illuminate when there is about 2.2 gallons or less of gas left in the tank. Say what you will, but in jet setting Newport Beach, Ca, where the smallest of homes that needs work starts at 2M, the new Rav4 Hybrid is everywhere. They look great. I thought I had more than enough miles to run an errand and head to the gas station after but I ran out of gas 8 miles after first getting the RAV4. The reserve capacity is only useful if you know how much is there; otherwise it is wasted mass and excess inventory. What I have not seen yet is an answer to the question, when the light come on is there still 4 gallons left in the tank and will it use those gallons if I continue to drive on? I think people making a typical highway commute in any of the nation’s biggest metros except maybe Houston or Atlanta can expect to see 40 mpg or close to it. The gas gauge light came on with this second tank with the gauge showing 1/8th of a tank left. The parts are not yet available for the masses but will be in the coming months. But given all of the other problems with the 2019 and 2020 models, I won’t be surprised if it has electrical problems as well. The information concerned a “Fuel Gauge Concern,” and says: “Some 2019 model year RAV4 HV customers may be experiencing some concern related to fuel gauge reading less than full…The meter may display somewhere around 3/4 or 7/8 full at time of gas station pump auto stop.”.
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